Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.
Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union…
The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.
Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.
Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?
.ml Is made by and ran by Marxist-Leninists.
Marxist-Leninism being an entirely made up bullshit ideology from Stalin to paint any and all actions he committed as “communism” or “progress to communism”.
Its also the adopted “ideology” of every self proclaimed communist state such as China, North Korea, Vietnam, etc. Any contradictions of the ideology between how these states practice it is brushed off by M-L fans as “Marxist-Leninism with <INSERT COUNTRY> characteristics”.
To a M-L fan, none of the core principles of communism actually matter, and are never actually pursued. They don’t care about::
And both hilariously and bafflingly, they will point to what benefits a respective M-L country has as “proof” that that country is following or pursuing communism, even if that country blatantly shows it refuses to adopt those big three above. They also blame the West, specifically the USA for those faux communist countries failing to achieve communism.
I.E. M-L fans fall for bread and circuses very easy as long as they’re told its a communist bread and circus
So TL;DR, .ml’s are Marxist-Leninists who don’t actually care about socialism or communism and are voluntary NPC propaganda machines for authoritarian regimes that abandoned a pursuit of communism long ago.
my favorite part was when you pointed out corruption and capitalism so rife in every country that is supposedly communist, they say it’s ‘necessary for the transition’… right.
some of them are still under the delusion that Russia still a ML state…
Eerily similar to the MAGAs who are happy to suffer the “temporary” pain of tariffs today, since it’s going to “Make Us Great” in the ill-defined future
There’s a reason M-Ls are called “tankies” and “red fascists”.
They just simply are. They are fascists in Che Guevara t-shirts.
So … fascists who idolize rapists
Isn’t that all fascists tho?
che was a rapist? wow thats news to me
Do anybody care about anarchist/liberal opinion about MLs? ML ideology defeated nazis and has changed landscape of the planet, your ideology is cringe and non existent, keep seething. ML is a science and it will always exist
I care more about their opinions on MLs than MLs’ opinions on anything
No, it didn’t. Defeat of the Nazis was a collaborative effort between allied nations and factions of varying ideologies, mostly liberal, one made up (Marxist-Leninist)
Actually, you can credit MLs (especially as its OG was in charge at the time), with severely weakening the Soviet Union with massive purges (including of the military), famine of Ukraine, complete fumbling of preparation for war, and the Nazis almost reaching Moscow until Stalin’s generals begged him just enough to fuck off and let them do their jobs.
Oh, and let’s not forget the alliance MLs made with the Nazis to take Poland together. Their first instinct was alliance with Nazis. That only changed after Operation Barbarossa.
Yeah, it caused irreparable damage to the communist movement by appropriating it for fascism that pretends to be communist.
FUCKING
LMAO
ML wouldn’t even cut it as an art, let alone a science. But I bet the rest of the 13 year olds in your discord server thought that line went hard.
Ofcourse you care about opinion of CIA and global capital ideology
Such a shameless downplaying of sacrifices of soviet people. 80% nazis were killed on eastern front by the red army. Liberals suffered little to no damage in WW2. It was collaborative, sure but the biggest contributors by far were soviets.
Debateable to say red army got weak due to purges, alot of counter revolutionaries were purged.
not intentional
Who told you that? stalin tripled size of red army in 2 years following the MR pact and shifted industries towards east, they were preparing but they just didnt have enough time.
Lie.
No, it was a non aggression pact
I mean no other form of communism has ever been tried and people like you have played whatever the establishment say about communism, the global capital will obviously defame communism, it has done since century but so called people of left has played major role in spreading that narrative too. No other form of communism being tried results to no failures and no challenge to the global capital or status quo, so you can just keep blaming the tankies while the status quo isnt threatned at all. ML is still the morst popular far left ideology, theres a reason for it.
A radlib or democratic socialist, mamdani AOC type.
There is big world outside US politics, get some help.
lol
A lot of such parties made by 13 y.o. are at the forefront of communist movement while all you do is larp online
Or the Brexiteers convinced that the sunlit uplands are just around the corner of the “short term pain” of abandoning the UK’s closest and largest trade partner.
Fucking morons, happily led around by their prejudices.
“With every mistake, we must surely be learning” -George Harrison
Can you guys ever think out of your american chauvinist mindset? Marxism Leninism exists for more than a century, it has nothing to do with MAGA and have hundreds of pages of theory and have been applied in real life multiple times, atleast think, its crazy how stupid you people are.
Literally no sane ML thinks that, russia is a liberal bourgeosie state