Anecdotally, most current or former homeschooled kids I meet seem pretty socially awkward. I wonder if It’s because the miss-out on the opportunity to learn how to socialize properly as children. But maybe I’m being too critical, idk.

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    The Swedish school system didn’t pop up out of thin air either. Of course you’ll have to invest in the system for it to work.

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      right but we have a significant portion of the population trying to privatize it, which by design makes it unequal

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      we don’t have national education policy.

      education is 90% determined by the town or city you live in. even states have minimal influence over local districts.

      schools in the same district, and schools a few kim apart, can have wildly different standards and outcomes.

      the only major factor is basically, how wealthy your zipcodes/parents were. that is the overwhelming determination of your educational outcome, because richer parents value education more than non-rich parents.

      in poorer communities, education is seen negatively and it’s actively discouraged.

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        the only major factor is basically, how wealthy your zipcodes/parents were. that is the overwhelming determination of your educational outcome, because richer parents value education more than non-rich parents.

        in poorer communities, education is seen negatively and it’s actively discouraged.

        I think you’re about to be visited in the night by three ghosts.

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        Right. Then you’d have to start by making a national education policy. I’m not saying it will be easy (Sweden did by no means get it perfect right away, nor is it perfect now) but unless you start somewhere you won’t ever get to a better place.

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          Anytime we do that things get way worse than they were previously. No Child Left Behind accelerated the destruction of our education system by basically punishing poor schools for being poor. Our Federal government should get out of education policy entire. It should provide funds for school construction and infrastructure.

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            Yeah, no, with that NIMBY attitude nothing will ever get done. You really think the rest of the developed world got to were they are without some chafing along the way? It’s almost as if you don’t want shit to get better with that typical American defeatist mentality.

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              No. Education works best from the bottom up. Parents are the biggest factor, not teachers or schools.

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                And how do you get parents to universally improve over time? You can’t drive the improvement without a top down incentive at bare minimum. If no child left behind failed, look at why and try again, don’t give up and say the nation will be illiterate outside of the ruling class.

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                  you don’t. the government doesn’t get to decide how people parent. parents do.

                  should the government also evaluate people’s sexual performance?