U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration’s top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

“And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war,” Vance said.

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    So you want me to vote against the Palestinian’s preferred choice of Green Party for AIPAC-owned pro-genocide Democrats in order to save the Palestinians, because you believe Palestinians are too stupid to know what is good for them? Was it good for you when ICE, trained by the IDF, killed a few Americans? That is who your politicians vote to support. Your choices have consequences.

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      I want you to limit the harm caused by the US.

      You are laser focused on Palestine, but look beyond that, would Kamela have kidnapped, Venezuela’s president, would she have blockaded Cuba, would she have attacked Iran, alienated NATO and other allies, stopped helping Ukraine?

      There is more going on here than Palestine.

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        She certainly talked about attacking Iran and was praising the biggest war criminal of the last two decades, Dick Cheney. I don’t think she would have been as bad globally, but that’s not how it works. If you can’t say no to genocide then you don’t get to claim to be the victim.

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      I’m not sure who you are letting influence you about what Palestines want. But they would certainly prefer democrat’s ME policy over Trump’s. It’s that simple.

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        A majority of Palestinians voted for Green Party in 2024. If you voted in solidarity with them, you would not have voted for a Democrat.

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              And they would have been stronger if more people had voted for them.

              Look, of you want real change and a better democracy in the US, the only time that may actually happen is with the Dems.

              Sure, both parties are benefitting from the current system, but the GOP benefits far, far more.

              The only realistic way to bring about real change in the US political system is to get rid of FPTP and introduce proportional representation all over.

              The GOP will absolutely refuse to do that, without FPTP they loose tools like Jerrymandering and can’t manipulate the result as easily.

              An FPTP system will naturally move toward a two party equilibrium, this is what the Dems have coasted on.

              Both parties will loose influence with proportional representation, because as soon as it is implemented across the board, smaller parties like the Green party will actually have a chance of getting into congress and make their voters heard.

              You want to stop the US from supporting Israel?

              Then you need to play the long game, make the Dems strong, push for idealistic candidates who want real change, keep them in power, and keep pushing for the changes that are needed.

              Once proportional representation is implemented, you still need to keep the Dems strong for a while, to make sure that the new legislation is locked in people’s minds and prevent the GOP to immediately rip it out.

              After a few elections, then you can start focusing on smaller parties that pushes your actual agenda.

              As the saying goes, the best time for changes you want to see now, was 30 years ago, the second best time is now.

              Changes like this will take decades to implement and gain acceptance, that is the timeframe you are working with.