After using LineageOS for long time, I have finally moved to GrapheneOS. I use a lot of banking and financial apps which I never felt comfortable using on LineageOS due to lack of proper sandboxing, unlocked bootloader etc.
GrapheneOS works flawlessly just like Android. You don’t even notice there’s hardening underneath. Also it protects from Google’s evil location tracking using WiFi/Bluetooth or even when the Location is turned off. I don’t understand how people in general are comfortable with Google tracking all the time. You can use Google Play and Play Services in a sandbox that works just like regular installation, but without deep tracking.
If you haven’t tried GrapheneOS, try it. You won’t go back to regular Android.
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If they can get it to work on non-Google devices, I will consider it. Right now Graphene compatibility is extremely limited. Besides, I basically have to give Google money to avoid Google.
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Yeah, it’s kind of wild and ironic that one of the most private OSes requires a Google phone.
Have people forgotten about the used market? Buying things second hand is the way.
I’m always wary of buying second hand phones. How healthy is that battery going to be?
It is possible to replace them, with a little research. Or just taking them to a phone repair shop if you’re too anxious for that
Doesn’t change that this only runs on Pixel devices. I simply don’t want a Pixel device for various reasons. Used or not, Graphene won’t run officially on a Sony, a Fairphone, etc.
If the security benefits of a pixel is less important then the fact Google made it then GOS is simply not meant for you.
Its silly people complain about it being only compatible for pixels but never seem to blame other android brands for making significantly less secure phones. The responsibility should be put on phone makers to create secure phones that meet GOS requirements, not to expect GOS to make a less secure OS.
The whole AOSP environment is very Google centric so its pretty weird to think because your not buying a pixel that you are somehow avoiding Google.
still pricey as fuck in my country. barely any pixels here.
My country’s second hand market sucks donkey balls. Import fees are crazy if you even dare to use Amazon instead of cheap Chinese shop. I just wanna scream.
Damn, that really sucks, I’m sorry :(
Buy a Pixel second hand. Then you’re just reimbursing someone who already made that mistake. ;)
Like Google will bankrupt without my money. I’d rather remove their malware.
For people looking to change and are worried about banks bullshit here is a link to a list of currently supported bank apps.
My bank apps all work fine. Just keep your physical bank cards on you because Google Wallet won’t work with credit cards, NFC or transport passes. Your gig tickets and membership cards will load fine though.
You probably don’t want Google rummaging through your purchase history anyway. I certainly don’t miss it.
Literal gold
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I’m honestly only afraid of bricking my primary phone. That’s the only reason I’m still on stock android. It’s the inconvenience of having to buy my way out of a brick.GrapheneOS is the easy to install OS among any mobile platform. Everything is through a web UI, so you are very unlikely to brick your phone. You don’t need to type a single command. Also even if you brick a Pixel phone, it’s very easy to install stock Android build through Google with a similar installation process.
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Ah but I’m running a Fairphone 4, so I’m not sure how a restore would work. Although I know I won’t void the warranty by changing the OS. Maybe I’ll see what their policy is on repairing a buggered attempt at the OS change. They provide /e/os from the shop like.@swamptin @PullPantsUnsworn I’ve been using /e/os for a few months and like it. Good integration with Nextcloud.
@futureidentity
That’s cool! Any experience with banking apps? I expect to have to sandbox at least one, but Revolut might even have a native build?Edit: Forums indicate Revolut hasn’t worked naively since 2021
@PullPantsUnsworn@swamptin @PullPantsUnsworn Sorry… I don’t use my phone for banking :^(
Does RCS work reliably on Graphene? I thought Google was fucking with RCS quietly for those on custom ROMs or other things.
I have graphene OS on my pixel 8. RCS works flawlessly with the Google messages app. No issues…
excellent, glad to hear
I don’t use RCS myself, but there are recent posts on the GOS forums and it appears to be working fine once all of the prerequisites are installed.
I just looked it up and GrapheneOS only works on google hardware? So you had to give google some money first or did you get it to work on something else?
Yeah the fact that Pixel Phones are the defacto standard for privacy phones is absurd. It’s guaranteed chock full of hardware surveillance tools you can’t remove with custom roms or kernels.
Outside of the Pixel lineup, custom rom support is almost non-existant in 2024. it’s wild, you can get the same or better hardware for half the price.
