• iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    well is this the level of backlash required to force israil to use civil pawns to continue the terrorism?

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      3 months ago

      Settler Violence is deliberate, and exploited by the Israeli State to continue ethnic cleansing & Settler Colonialism in the West Bank with plausible deniability

      The state takes over land openly, using official methods sanctioned by legal advisors and judges, while the settlers, who are also interested in taking over land to further their agenda, initiate violence against Palestinians for their own reasons. Yet in truth, there is only one track: Settler violence against Palestinians is part of the strategy employed by Israel’s apartheid regime, which seeks to take over more and more West Bank land. The state fully supports and assists these acts of violence, and its agents sometimes participate in them directly. As such, settler violence is a form of government policy, aided and abetted by official state authorities with their active participation.

      The combination of state violence and nominally unofficial violence allows Israel to have it both ways: maintain plausible deniability and blame the violence on settlers rather than on the military, the courts or the Civil Administration while advancing Palestinian dispossession. The facts, however, blow plausible deniability out of the water: When the violence occurs with permission and assistance from the Israeli authorities and under its auspices, it is state violence. The settlers are not defying the state; they are doing its bidding.

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    The Israelis don’t treat Palestinians like they are human beings. They don’t care to make generations of enemies with their war crimes.

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      Did you say the same thing about palestinians on oct 7th or do you have some sort of antisemetic double standard where you think it is acceptable to judge all israeli’s by the actions of a few, but do not think its acceptable to judge all palestinains based on the actions of a few?

      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        There’s that word. “Antisemitism”. Put it back in the deck Moishe, It’s not winning you any arguments.

      • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Both sides have a lot of hatred and resentment toward each other. The problem is that the power balance is extremely heavily in favor of Israel, and they are able to exert their will on the Palestinians through force the Palestinians have no answer for.

        But yes, killing innocent people is bad whenever it happens, and no, not all Israelis are bad, just the government, military, and settlers. One admittedly horrific massacre does not give Israel license to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, which is precisely what is happening right now.

        • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world
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          the thing is, as shown here, there are no zionist civilians. not one. they are all armed ready and not just willing but eager to fight.

          that isn’t to say there aren’t any sort of resistance, but while they’re not quite partisans yet, friendly fire is not the same as killing civilians.

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            80% of American jews self identify as zionists.

            Are you honestly arguing that american jews who have never been to israel and have never served in any military are valid targets to be killed by the palestinian ‘resistance’?

            • IAmNotACat@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              ‘I’m not the one killing you, but I do support the people killing you, and may even be financially aiding their efforts.’

        • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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          Yes let’s compare them together:

          A group of designated terrorists, absorbed into, a military force, that forces all European and North American citizens to join their forces and continue it “killing” and “stealing” of other people land. Compared in haterd for people who got their stuff stolen, killed, and oppressed in their damn land.

          It is like police killing black people and a politician goes on about how trust between the community need to be built again. When it is one sided oppression.

      • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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        You’re gonna have to explain this take. Illegal state-sponsored settlements in the West Bank are absolutely evil. There’s nothing weird about describing it that way.