• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I wouldn’t go intel. That place is a shitshow. Also, I am not so sure the AI bubble will burst. World governments see it as sn arms race. So they will keep that industry propped up.

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      You can’t sustain it because it’s unsustainable. It’s exponentially inefficient. This isn’t like the US auto industry where labor negotiations blah blah blah. This is a black hole that is disappearing everything it touches. Brand loyalty, human rights, natural resources, political stability.

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        I don’t see it as exponential. Plenty of up front costs that have a decent appreciation period. I think they can prop it up for 10 to 20 years though. And there is always the chance of some breakthrough to either extend that or pay it off. I expect more of the former though.

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      I’m not sure how it’s an arms race given the fact that it can’t do anything remotely useful.

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        Well, maybe not useful to you. But to hackers, which at the government level are military, it can be very useful. They can use AI to exploit a publically disclosed exploit faster than people can patch thier systems. That can give one country access to the sensitive data of a different government. And of course, hacking utilities and infrastructure can give one country a lot of power over another. Why do you think a Russia is working to enable itself to isolate it’s internet from the rest of the world. Can’t hack what you can’t connect to. And of course, it doesn’t even have to matter if it is useful, as long as the governments of the world think they can’t let other governments get ahead of them.

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          Drones don’t pilot themselves humans do it. You’re not going to want to put on board processing on a drone it’s just going to increase the cost to limited tactical benefit. Plus without oversight you couldn’t take the chance it wouldn’t go completely haywire.

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            For AI, the largest computing expense is usually training. Individual uses are much smaller. And a model that has a narrow scope like flying can have even less demand. Also, they already have autonomous drones. They don’t even need AI. The AI part would probably be like target selection or strategy. And of course, since when did governments care about oversight in a warzone.

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      I dunno what you’re on about, Battlemage is great for the money and they appear to have committed to stick with Arc. And they have fab customers now.

      …Yeah, Intel still has that corporate Game of Thrones going on internally. That’s not ideal. But AMD sunk much lower than that, and climbed out.

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        The gov owns a piece of intel now. If that isn’t enough, consider that they now have a competitive advantage in that government agencies are less likely to go after them for abusing customer trust and such. Intel will need to exploit that to get ahead. Also, there is constant talk of breaking up the company into parts and such. Not much stability there.

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      Propped up by what, though? They’ll just continue to dilute the name of AI with underperforming technology and yield more backlash from the public while making an oligarchy out of their richest tech influencers.

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        The same thing as everything else… money. If the gov dumps money into the bubble it won’t pop. I mean it’s not sustainable, but it can work for a pretty long time.

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          Yeah, I’m with you there. They sure as shit are going to try, regardless of whatever sustainability point you or I can think up.

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        People will stop complaining about graphics cards when they and/or their kids are sent to die in a stupid unending war