MP allegedly greeted a party colleague at German parliament building ‘with a heel click and a Hitler salute’
Berlin prosecutors say they have charged a member of the far-right Alternative für Deutschland party with making a Nazi salute in parliament.
The suspect allegedly “greeted a party colleague … at the east entrance to the Reichstag building with a heel click and a Hitler salute” in June 2023, the prosecutors said in a statement issued on Monday.
Making such a salute is illegal in Germany and is punishable by up to three years in prison.
The newspaper Bild named the politician as Matthias Moosdorf, 60, a member of parliament for Zwickau in the former East German state of Saxony.
arrest them all. dissolve the party. explain this to the people that AfD is compromised by Russia to undermine Germany.
Just use the words “They are a national security threat,” and you can pretty much do whatever needs to be done.
Nazis are Nazis, you don’t need external interference claims (not questioning the claim itself) to arrest them all and dissolve the party. The reality is that this only gets done to leftist parties in Europe.
that would just make them martyrs.
no it won’t. that’s just an excuse to do nothing and continue to let manchurian candidates undermine the country.
i’m so sick and tired of this bullshit, faux-wisdom that we can do nothing about these problems and not enforce our laws, so just let these ppl run free to ruin everything. that’s just more propaganda from our enemies.
I generally get the reasoning behind the whole martyr thing but it just doesn’t work in this case. The individual is 1) in the country where the Nazis came to power in the first place, 2) is a member of parliament, 3) has now demonstrated that they wish to bring back the ideology which caused multiple genocides, the 2nd world war and the complete destruction of Europe. There’s “they are minuscule minority and have zero chance of gaining traction and so we only stand to lose by making them a martyr” and “they are already in parliament and part of a party that is the thinnest of veils for the Nazi party and are doing so in the backdrop of the rising popularity of the AFD and far-right politicians around the world”. No! This lesson has been learned in Germany. Knock the fucker down (put them in jail) and show no remorse. They don’t deserve a benefit of the doubt or leniency here.
This lesson was learned by the entire world! The problem is that the good people won, and we’re all so polite that we have even let the biggest enemy of the last century gain strength and rise again.
We need to learn the lessons of history and our mistakes and our experience, and stop being so polite to people who have made it very clear that they intend to enslave and murder us.
Embroider this on a pillow for the ages.
Nonsense. Conservatives don’t do martyrdom well, because they don’t really care about other people, even their colleagues. They appreciate the initial outrage that the martyrdom causes, but creating and maintaining a martyr requires dedication and constant hyping of the martyrdom, and conservatives just don’t have it in them to care about anyone else that much.
Also, when it’s bad guys that get wiped out, people like that.
It’s called Defensive Democracy