Of any kind. Commuting, road biking, touring, mountain biking etc.

Been a cyclist of various types for 20 years now. Never seems to be non-controversial. Even among other cyclists… many hate other types of cyclists. And now there is a lot of specific e-bike hate/controversy.

I don’t get it man. What do you think?

IME assholes are assholes regardless of being on a bike or not.

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    If you’re going 1/4 of the speed limit and there’s no biking infrastructure, please stay off the road. I’ll probably get hate for it, but blame the state for not providing safe infrastructure for cyclist.

    This goes both ways. If there’s no biking infrastructure, maybe its you who should blame the state for needing to go around or stay behind the cyclist. The road is theirs as much as it is yours.

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      The road is theirs as much as it is yours.

      People use the road to accomplish shit, going to work/school, get food, pick up kids, etc.

      Someone decked out like Lance Armstrong to make their exercise take as little physical effort as possible and uses a route that’s not planned with others in mind both in time and location is selfish. Especially people who do it during rush hour, and inconvenience 100s or even 1000s of people.

      There’s a big difference in that type of cyclist and someone that’s riding a bike in street clothes for a commute. And it doesn’t make sense to act like they’re the same.

      Like, there are loads of cities with great bike trails, but they’re not going to be great bike trails on every street. And obviously cyclists who are inconsiderate aren’t exactly rare

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        There’s a big difference in that type of cyclist and someone that’s riding a bike in street clothes for a commute. And it doesn’t make sense to act like they’re the same.

        No there isn’t at least not a large one, cycling costume or not has almost no bearing on whether the ride is for recreation/fitness or for getting from a to b, often both are combined. If you had a 30km commute on a bike you’d also try to wear clothes that make it easier to get there quickly and you would use the most direct route and this is what most cyclists are doing when people get annoyed by them.

        Plenty of people are doing their commute as their training ride because it makes sense to do so, why should they have to drive their car half an hour and do an hour of cardio instead of their hour cycle commute, just so you can arrive a minute early come on.

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          Plenty of people are doing their commute as their training ride because it makes sense to do so,

          Super convenient for them, but also very inconvenient for everyone else…

          Which is my entire point about some cyclists being selfish assholes and them being the minority…

          In another comment I mentioned how those selfish cyclists will always pretend they can’t be separated out, which I feel like is relevant here. And I know no amount of comments will change your mind because of that

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            Why should my half hour be worth less than your minute or 2 until you can safely overtake.

            Not to mention that if their bike commute allows them to take a car of the road, you might be faster on average you just think that the bike makes you slower. Plus the 1000s of dollars in just waste if they would need to own a car instead and so on …

            You know what’s super convenient for you(r group) but super inconvenient for everyone else, car centric infrastructure development.

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        That’s pretty much the opposite of what the comment they’re replying to was saying though. They were complaining about bikes going below the speed limit, so I guess they only want the Lance Armstrong types on the road and not the commuters.