• Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    23 hours ago

    I still don’t understand what evidence you’re finding on these Wikipedia pages. Like, ok, I read the Wikipedia page for the F-22. What am I supposed to get out of my reading? What should I have learned from that page?

    Can you please actually draw the connection you’re making, explicitly? Because I legitimately do not understand what you’re trying to say

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      22 hours ago

      You are replying to a series of comments about NATO not being able to field an actual war against Russia.

      if NATO decides to field a war against russia with the war assets they spend trillions on such as hundreds of f22, almost a thousand f35, a hundred nuclear submarines and all the shit they have like the most advanced cyberwarfare weapons in the world, how does russia respond?

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        11 hours ago

        They could just carpet nuke usa 10x over. There is no winning against a nuclear power.

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        22 hours ago

        So all these Wikipedia articles are evidence for the claim “NATO would trounce Russia if they were actually trying”? And the evidence I’m supposed to be getting from these articles is “look at all these extremely expensive war planes, clearly they’re better than their Russian counterparts, they’re more expensive”.

        Is that a fair characterization of your point?

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          22 hours ago

          You didn’t answer the question, go ahead and bring up the 10x cheaper russian assets that can match fleets of f22 and f35

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            21 hours ago

            You want me to answer the question that is your last paragraph?

            I have no idea! I don’t live in Russia, I’m not well-versed in modern warfare and military technology, I haven’t studied diplomacy, I have no idea how Russia would respond if nato suddenly brings to bear every piece of military hardware it can muster.

            Literally all I’m saying is that more expensive doesn’t always mean better quality. That’s literally it

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              21 hours ago

              Literally all I’m saying is that more expensive doesn’t always mean better quality. That’s literally it

              You are right, more expensive doesn’t always mean better quality or more products that’s why I am referring to assets made with these money that show that in this case spending 10x more than everyone else is resulting in a bigger and more advanced army

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                20 hours ago

                in this case spending 10x more than everyone else is resulting in a bigger and more advanced army

                This is the part I think you haven’t shown, even a little bit. First you linked a wikipedia page which was a list of countries with the highest military expenditures, then you linked wikipedia pages for a bunch of american military hardware. At no point did you try to compare american military hardware with Russian military hardware, either in quantity or quality. The only comparison you’ve made is in terms of expense.

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                  12 hours ago

                  It’s not that hard you can compare it yourself, google how many military assets russia have. USA spend a trillion in war each year and as a result they have almost a thousand operative fifth generation planes (for comparison russia has less than 25). USA has about 70 nuclear submarines where russia has 20

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                    11 hours ago

                    Russia has hypersonic nukes, usa doesn’t. It doesn’t matter how much you spend, if you get hypersonic nuked you are dead.