This is one of those frustrating situations where we will simply never know what actually happened.
Could Venezuela’s government have made this up? Possibly. They have motive and they are not the most honest people, to put it mildly.
On the other hand, Trump and his Goons have be been bragging about bombing boats, talking not at all coyly about land invasions, and said openly they had people operating in Venezuela.
So did those agents get caught? Or did Trump give the Venezuelans the idea to perform this hoax by running his fucking mouth?
The CIA’s not going to admit anything. Neither side has any credibility to speak of. I guess maybe a third party investigator with the press or a foreign intelligence agency could try, but that’s going to be one source at best. I’ll have been dead like 20 years before it comes out what actually happened, if anything.
But if you had to make an informed guess knowing the history of the CIA, three letter agencies and false flag attacks, and American interventionism as a whole, the answer seems pretty obvious, right? Yeah, maybe the murderous rapist didn’t assault and kill this young lady, but he’s done it to every girl in the neighbourhood so I’m gonna believe the accusations more easily…
Betting on Trump lying feels like a safe bet to be sure, and nothing about it is out of character for American foreign ops. But that’s not confirmation of anything. And the problem is, I have no more confidence in the other side of this equation.
In more grounded terms, If two known liars both give you their side of the story, and both sound plausible there is this overwhelming feeling of exhaustion and melancholy that hits me every time. What’s the point? Even if one of you is telling the truth, it was probably so distorted as to be worthless.
I don’t know if I was just naive or raised by naive people, or if something has genuinely changed in the modern age - but it pains me greatly that we don’t even pretend to value integrity anymore.
The monsters in charge of America have come to the realization that their society is mostly cooked beyond redemption so they don’t have to spend any energy spinning the truth and keeping up appearances. In fact, a sizable portion of Americans celebrate their nations immoral geopolitical moves and overall anti-humanist attitude, so much that things like overt racism and even Nazi salutes are now proudly displayed!
This is a dumb fucking take.
Normally we could expect that there are at least records that will eventually come out, but we’ve seen the current administration use things like Signal to prevent any official records ever being created.
They’ve been seen using TM SGNL made by Israeli company TeleMessage to archive messages. Which is good except that it does so unencrypted, giving Mossad a window into the administration…
The President has literally eaten official documents
Could Venezuela’s government have made this up? Possibly. They have motive and they are not the most honest people, to put it mildly.
I absolutely thought you were going to just duplicate this paragraph for the US. I’d laugh, but it would only be to mask my misery.
Trump definitely is good at running his stupid fucking mouth
I dunno. Producing the heads of the agents along with DNA tests linking them to American family members would go a long way towards proving the Venezuelan version.
That’s a good point - if the mercenaries are identified accurately, that could be a trail someone could follow.
I like Venezuela better, because the CIA probably wouldn’t have been so easily caught.
I find it interesting that Venezuela is Stephe Miller’s #1 target both domestically and internationally.
Oil, most likely.
That makes sense internationally but he’s been out to get Venezuelan people living in the US like it’s a personal vendetta.
He loathes these people with all the fiber of his being. He’s a fucking worm.
Apparently it’s Rubio’s obsession too. The Daily has a good podcast about it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/23/podcasts/the-daily/us-venezuela-maduro-boat-attacks.html
I don’t understand. CIA coup’s have always worked out well in South and Central America, right? I am pretty sure the US has a great track record of interfering in Latin countries. I definitely don’t forsee this all ending badly. Now, where are those Epstein files?
It always ends badly for the locals, Americans remain largely unaffected. It’s fucking bs. 😭
“largely unaffected”? these coups are how the US steals resources from south america!
you benefit from these coups every time you buy a banana or chocolate.
I’ll make sure to personally say thank you to Vance for every banana
Trinidad and Tobago challenged Venezuela to provide proof of the alleged false-flag operation and said the joint military operation with the United States “aims to bolster the fight against transnational crime and build resilience through training, humanitarian activities, and security cooperation.”
That is confirmation from T&T, that’s the diplomatic equivilant of “lol bitch what are gonna do about it”.
T&T not giving this energy about verifying whether all the people killed by the US on small boats are drug traffickers. Maybe they want to be the next Israel or Rwanda as the regional hammer for the the US
Lmao fuck everything he’s just using Putin’s playbook now I guess 🤦♂️
Not necessarily only Putin, it’s just that both are authoritarians, and this is what they do. It’s a playbook that’s been used throughout the 20th century.
He’s using America’s playbook, lol. Sure, 9/11 is still recent enough for its nature as a false flag attack (avoidable but allowed at least, cause the Middle East excursions needed justification) to be debatable but what about Operation Northwoods? Operation Gladio?
At first I thought you were going to the CIA backed coup and the following murders and dictatorship in Chile, speaking of South America and 9/11.
“CIA Mercenaries” is one of the more cursed combinations of words.
It is like saying “Electrified Swimming Pool”.
CIA-Linked Mercenaries. The linking is a key difference. It means they were only given funding, weapons, intelligence, plans, and technology by the CIA, the CIA actually didn’t do anything. 2nd degree murder at worst, hardly a crime worth prosecuting. -s
Electrified Shit Contaminated Pool?
crazy incompetence to be using methods like this atp
