• Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 hours ago

    Poles hating russians makes sense historically, but historically Germans, both Prussian and Austrian , have been just as bad, if not worse with the nazis, so why don’t they hate them too?

    I think the “russophobia” today has more to do with current events than history. If Germany did anschluss 2 and invaded Austria, I think Poland would be just as scared of them.

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      14 hours ago

      The Poles who still remember the war say that there is nothing worse than Russian occupation. Germans had their specific targets, Russians just treated everyone equally bad.

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        11 hours ago

        Maybe, but those specific targets were more often than not killed. So yeah, people who survived may say the russians were worse because you can’t ask a dead jew who they thought were worse. The Germans killed 36x as many people during the occupation. Yeah the soviets taking your shit and trying to suppress your culture and autonomy sucks but that’s better than the Germans doing the same while sending a good chunk of the population to death camps

        Again, I think that perspective is more shaded by the more recent soviet occupation after the war. If the nazis won and implemented their full lebensraum plans for Poland, nobody would be saying the russians were worse.

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      11 hours ago

      Some true, yet Austria did hit Poland only few times, while Germany, did that many times for over a millennium.

      Germans are often hated, true, but for many, they are also allies in NATO, EU, Schengen and work market, so for many, they aren’t bad anymore. I mean, for many, there still are, rarely because of history, but many polish nationalists, even nazis, view whole EU as bad, as EU is trying to unify Europe beyond what nationalism wants coexist with others. Polish vs German hate falls under nationalism vs globalism war currently.

      But rus, they are good source for smuggling only, and always should be hated.

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    21 hours ago

    I mean, they are right on the surface, Poles have every reason to fear Russia and our history is full of examples of shit Russian behavior.

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    16 hours ago

    A lot of Europeans didn’t like the Huns, the Mongols or the Ottomans all that much either.

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      19 hours ago

      It’s a Polish article denouncing Russian propaganda abd exposing it’s lies. Try clicking the link before commenting.

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      21 hours ago

      Mate, Notes from Poland is not Russian propaganda.

      This is something called the news, in this case it’s highlighting how Russia is amplifying the rhetoric around Poland and ensuring people are alert.