• Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip
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    1 day ago

    Unfortunately a lot of “budget” items are being subsidized by your personal information, and the smaller market for privacy-forward goods and services makes economies of scale harder.

    Unless governments start passing robust privacy laws, it will just continue to get more and more expensive to live privately with modern conveniences.

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      23 hours ago

      That’s what I used to think before Google started pricing their devices on parity with Apple.

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          17 hours ago

          It’s because they can, basically. That’s the beginning and end of how companies price products and services.

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        23 hours ago

        Things cost a lot to produce. It’s cheapened by underpaying laborers and underestimating the cost and impact of resource extraction and power consumption, and the current path of massively scaling up factories, overproducing, and driving the repair economy out of business by making “just buy a new one!” so affordable really looks like The Big Thing That Ends The Current Epoch that people will really struggle to comprehend when they learn about it in history class

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        I don’t know what exactly you’re referring to but I assume you mean the bill of material cost that sometimes goes around in headlines like “new phone only costs $150 to produce and is sold for $500” or something like that.

        That’s a flawed way of looking at it because it ignores things like:

        • Shipping cost (both the final product and individual components)
        • Development cost
        • The % the retail store takes

        And of course profit which ideally is used to finance the development of the next device and ofc the greedy execs at the end who put the rest in their pockets (that’s the only part which you can actually cut)

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          23 hours ago

          I’m not sure where you are, but I’ve worked in retail quite a lot of years. Where I am, now:

          *R&D is paid for at some point *Shipping is probably more expensive now, but is normally not that expensive *Retail stores pay a flat rate per item, less in bulk

          What is expensive:

          *Venture capitalists *BoD, large share holders *Marketing (contained once brand recognition established) *C-suite *Real estate

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            R&D is a really big one though. It’s a very high price for smaller volumes of phones but as soon as you get into the bigger quantities you can save on R&D (per model) and pocket the rest as profit.

            To me it makes a lot of sense that privacy phones cost more, even if you could at most shave $100 off the price with selling data. It’s economies of scale.

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        If you have economies of scale, and are competing on ground other than having the highest specs on paper, yes. If you’re using the latest hardware and not moving Google volumes of devices though it’s not as easy to keep prices down.