Over the past few years I have gone through a bunch of different apps and protocols to find the best one for “securely” communicating with my family and friends.

I ended up with the amazing XMPP protocol and my family/friends frequently use its clients to contact me.

Monal for IOS and Cheogram/Conversations/Quicksy for Android. The android app I install depends on if I can get F-Droid on their phone or not.

It’s been great with OMEMO encryption and the clients/apps available for XMPP. But sometimes I have issues introducing people to it.

Jabber (friendly name for xmpp) sounds silly to say. The clients all have weird names. And after trying the Signal mobile app it feels more focused than what anyone in the XMPP community has whipped up.

But the capabilities of XMPP makes it better.

Signal Cons (immediete)

  • Centralized
  • Single app
  • Phone numbers

XMPP/Jabber Cons

  • Picking server
  • Apps are sort of less friendly

What really scares me about Signal is the centralization. Any nerd can easily host an XMPP server these days. But Signal from what I’ve heard really wants us to use their server.

If XMPP gets more attention I’m sure we can get people supporting projects and creating better apps.

I keep seeing people recommended Signal instead.

This is a bit of a tired ramble. What I wanna know is why anyone is preferring Signal over XMPP apps. I assume it might be not knowing about it. Tell me what you use to message people.

  • SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org
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    Signal is the best intersection of genuine security and ease-of-use that I’ve ever seen. No choosing a server, no making an account. Just install the app, get a confirmation SMS, and now you can communicate with future-proof encryption and authentication right away.

    For more technical people, who aren’t going to be intimidated by things like making accounts and secure passwords and choosing servers, Signal is not the best. But when I need to communicate securely with non-technical people, it’s a wonderful quick go-to solution.

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        I wouldn’t recommend simplex just yet because contacts are tied to servers. If the server you are using with a contact for down, you lose the contract

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        Its even simpler and more secure and privacy friendly. But the battery usage…

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            8 hours ago

            In how many larger groups are you and which notification style do you use?

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              I’m in two large groups and quite a number of smaller ones.

              For the most part, I have notifications muted on most things, except for a couple of very small groups that don’t get chats often.

              I’m not sure exactly what notification style I’m using because I can’t remember, but I do know that I do not have Google Play Services or Google Apps of any sort.