You’re wrong, entirely. There’s an absolute truth but we never get to use that. We can only ever use subjective truth. That’s the whole point of the allegory of the cave. The absolute truth is blinding. And your desire to win an argument is creating a subjective truth that is blinding you to something that is critical to understand why they are winning in this era and the left is losing.
And you are not able to determine if the world is a delusion or some truth. There’s not an argument. It is facts. You do not know if the sun actually exists anymore than you can prove we’re not a hallucinating brain in a jar floating in space. You have no argument here. You can deny it. But that won’t change this. Truth exist. We don’t deal with Truths we deal with truths.
What matters is results. You’re not a good person if you allow bad people to win because you have a twisted moral or ethical stance that just doesn’t matter. Perception is king. The average right winger knows this. The left are out classed. There’s a real possibility they’ll never catch up and this current situation will be our future but worse
It doesn’t fail. How do you determine that? You just know cause it is? You have no argument here to say what you’re experiencing is not just some grand delusion or dream. Unless you know something I don’t. So what is it?
Here is how I know you can’t. Your answer will be a non answer, you’ll either walk away from this pretending you’re too good for this argument or you’ll say, it is because… You know like you can experience it. I already said the brain is capable of delusion and dreams and we know simulation theory isn’t new. So do you have some way to determine if it isn’t one of those things?
But guarantee you can’t provide a half decent honest argument. It’ll be some one liner or just hyperbole
How do you know. If I tell you it doesn’t exist how do you prove it. You can say we see it. And I can tell show you illusions or examples of how we hallucinate or theories and simulations. There is a Truth no doubt. But we deal with truths always.
But that doesn’t prove that those really exist. I can dream/Imagine/hallucinate/simulate that those things exist and that they work together. It’s like trying to nail down the question of who you are. Are you some observer inside your brain or are you something more holistic. There are absolutely things in my body I don’t control. It acts on its own. I observe and at times act against my own desires, needs and wants fairly often. So who am I if I don’t have full control of me.
All this to say while we argue this, this Republicans innately understand the truth is not something that is easily understood. They expertly have used it to create the current world while people on the left scratch their balls wondering what’s wrong with the world. What’s wrong is that the left have not adapted in 60 years. They’ve actually devolved. They are miserable and toxic. They reject any advances in technology. There actively alternate themselves from tools and resource and social groups who do not meet their ever changing and growing demands for moral and ethical superiority. The left have fallen behind and they use excuses about ethics and morality as the reason they’re failing instead of taking ownership for being a regressive group with almost nothing to offer anyone in today’s world.
Is your goal to be truthful or not labeled a terrorist and put into a camp. Take your pick. Truth is subjective.
Truth is absolute. There is no such thing as “subjective truth” or “personal truth”.
Something is either true or it isn’t.
You’re wrong, entirely. There’s an absolute truth but we never get to use that. We can only ever use subjective truth. That’s the whole point of the allegory of the cave. The absolute truth is blinding. And your desire to win an argument is creating a subjective truth that is blinding you to something that is critical to understand why they are winning in this era and the left is losing.
Metaphysical nonsense is not a good argument.
It’s very literally the argument. Again your truth and mine don’t align on that which is more proof
Belief in nonsense is called “delusion”. So you go ahead and continue being delusional.
And you are not able to determine if the world is a delusion or some truth. There’s not an argument. It is facts. You do not know if the sun actually exists anymore than you can prove we’re not a hallucinating brain in a jar floating in space. You have no argument here. You can deny it. But that won’t change this. Truth exist. We don’t deal with Truths we deal with truths.
What matters is results. You’re not a good person if you allow bad people to win because you have a twisted moral or ethical stance that just doesn’t matter. Perception is king. The average right winger knows this. The left are out classed. There’s a real possibility they’ll never catch up and this current situation will be our future but worse
The very first sentence in this paragraph already fails. How do you expect me to take the rest seriously?
It doesn’t fail. How do you determine that? You just know cause it is? You have no argument here to say what you’re experiencing is not just some grand delusion or dream. Unless you know something I don’t. So what is it?
Here is how I know you can’t. Your answer will be a non answer, you’ll either walk away from this pretending you’re too good for this argument or you’ll say, it is because… You know like you can experience it. I already said the brain is capable of delusion and dreams and we know simulation theory isn’t new. So do you have some way to determine if it isn’t one of those things?
But guarantee you can’t provide a half decent honest argument. It’ll be some one liner or just hyperbole
Why can’t I want both things?
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Give me a truth. I bet it’ll be subjective.
The sun exists.
How do you know. If I tell you it doesn’t exist how do you prove it. You can say we see it. And I can tell show you illusions or examples of how we hallucinate or theories and simulations. There is a Truth no doubt. But we deal with truths always.
Whether truth exists is a different question from whether we one can prove it.
However, we know the sun exists because of its effects on us. Light, heat, gravity.
The multiple independent effects which can be experienced all around the world, reliably and consistently.
But that doesn’t prove that those really exist. I can dream/Imagine/hallucinate/simulate that those things exist and that they work together. It’s like trying to nail down the question of who you are. Are you some observer inside your brain or are you something more holistic. There are absolutely things in my body I don’t control. It acts on its own. I observe and at times act against my own desires, needs and wants fairly often. So who am I if I don’t have full control of me.
All this to say while we argue this, this Republicans innately understand the truth is not something that is easily understood. They expertly have used it to create the current world while people on the left scratch their balls wondering what’s wrong with the world. What’s wrong is that the left have not adapted in 60 years. They’ve actually devolved. They are miserable and toxic. They reject any advances in technology. There actively alternate themselves from tools and resource and social groups who do not meet their ever changing and growing demands for moral and ethical superiority. The left have fallen behind and they use excuses about ethics and morality as the reason they’re failing instead of taking ownership for being a regressive group with almost nothing to offer anyone in today’s world.
Sure, that’s why we need multiple independent observers.
But you’re still back to the problem of knowing if they exist or are just p-zombies