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What point will there be in using Android anymore? This was the only redeeming feature they had left
They killed the heart monitor
They killed IR blasters
They killed the headphone jack
They killed removable batteries
They killed SD card supportAnd now they’re about to kill freedom and ownership of the device you bought.
Are the phones gonna be totally free? What’s the point of using Android moving forward? Will this be the new start of classic flip phones?
If you can’t access an open Android phone, at this point there is no reason to consider anything other than an iPhone. It’s very expensive, yes, but it will be supported for years to come.
Switching to a feature phone depends on whether you can leave some smartphone usecases behind in favor of a feature phone’s benefits. I use my phone to read books and study my lessons with a stylus. I can let gaming go, it would suck but I can buy a portable console in the worst case scenerio. But those two are important. Banking is another one, even if I showed to the bank in person they direct you to use the app anyway. Which is cool, you get stuff done quickly but it sucks for cases like this.
I only buy hardware I can install open source firmware on. If there is no such thing then there will be zero sales from me.
I bet the next step will be to block a device from wireless debugging itself, so they can kill Shizuku.
Link to the official blog post: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/09/lets-talk-security-answering-your-top.html
Link to the feedback form shared on the blog post: https://goo.gle/Android-verification-feedback
Make use of that second link.
That blog post is such a heap of shit. Do they think they’re fooling anyone? It’s politik-speak. Nobody believes them, yet they bother to make those statements anyway.
What about the fact that when I buy a device I fucking own it. I now should be able to do whatever I want.
It’s so pathetic. And yeah, I’m not going to buy a new phone for a very, very, very long time. I’ll stock up on Android phones that are decent but still have the freedom to do what I want.
This shit is obnoxious and if we really want to fight it, we need a serious, globally unified boycott that gets advertised and shared daily. If successful, the device sales would drop drastically and the registrations of higher Android versions, usage etc. data should all show they are throwing away their user base.
Because literally one and only one thing ever matters: the almighty dollar. So take your dollars back, make them lose money, and have a very well-established unified protest where they can see the losses are directly tied to their decision to take away ownership. This is the only way that POSSIBLY, we may gain back what we have now.
Also - on the same front, a companion campaign could be active to persuade any hardware maker to fully allow custom ROMs and GSIs to be installed. No e of this hacking and exploiting… fully endorsed but I would not expect support and that’s fine. Hardware warranty is ok. But anyone who wants should be able to change their OS and install whatever they want.
One day you’re gonna see big manufacturers like Dell, HP etc. make consumer lines of products that literally won’t run any OS other than Windoze, because of an agreement with Microshaft. That’s their next step I absolutely guarantee it. Try to install Linux, and the BIOS will be programmed to reject it.
Because money. Sorry, not because money; because MORE money. Sorry, not because more money; because more and more and more money. Sorry, not because more and more and more money; because insatiable greed for every farthing they can fuck out of your goddamn pores.
But back to this architecture: if there is a financial incentive for a few manufacturers to make devices we can own and install our choice of Android, they would have at least one demographic guaranteed to buy. That pressure may or may not change Google’s mind, but it would open up a whole world of FOSS options or even paid versions, to compete with the giant.
Thoughts?
Make use of that second link.
Done. I’m not a dev, but I use apps from github/gitlab/etc. Requiring developer verification is absolutely retarded. And only allowing ADB to install without verification is not the olive branch they’re treating it as. It’s a slap in the face to anyone who actually knows what they’re doing.
Yeah, it’s bad. At the very least there should be a dev option on the phone itself to enable the existing functionality. Ask the user to accept an agreement if you want but it should be possible to all do on-device, without access to the internet.
Bingo.
After I made that comment, I thought about it some more and realized an existing metaphor already fits:
- Say you see a BMW 316d but with M3 badges. Those who don’t know cars, don’t care. Those who do know cars, know that the owner is full of shit.
Relating this to Android:
- People who don’t use 3rd party app stores, or other apps, don’t care about the developer verification. People who do use those things, already know that Google’s excuses are horseshit.
This verification bullshit will not only affect the developers who will be forced to register with google, but also the very people who made Android what it is today. Custom ROMs brought many features to Android that are now considered core elements:
- Night mode
- Bubble conversations
- Widgets
- Always-on display
- Caffeinate
- Quick settings
- Split screen/multitasking
…and that’s not even scratching the surface. There is so, so much more.
Sounds like you’ve been with us since the beginning. ✊
What was your first?
Make use of that second link.
Done, thank you
Make use of that second link.
I get that participation is important, but why does it feel like google is outsourcing good, sane management decisions?
Because they are.
