Just want to make sure I have that right. He spoke up so now they are making shit up to try and defame him? Do I have this bullshit right?

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    Just here to explain the downvotes: “ChatGPT, come up with a response to someone who dislikes celebrities, use a touch of sarcasm and make the tone slightly condescending in a plausibly deniable way. Make it generic enough it could apply to almost any hobby, in order to trivialize their point”.

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      Sincerity comes off as sarcasm to the insincere.

      Saying my response was created by chatgpt is dismissive and not genuine critique.

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        I’ll take you at face value if you say you were being sincere in your original posting, but it certainly didn’t come across that way at all to me (and I assume most of the downvoters). Just another interesting example of how tone doesn’t translate in online forums, I guess.

        Relevant Kids in the Hall sketch:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziH9St7ajuw

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            OP wasn’t claiming to be sincere. You are.

            Since you don’t see how the link is relevant, I’ll take the time to explain. The character played by David Foley in the Kids in the Hall sketch is not being intentionally sarcastic, but his affect is so sarcastic-seeming that the character played by Kevin MacDonald in the sketch is offended and leaves, despite Foley’s good intentions and desire for human contact.

            In the same way, your post, by your own declaration, is not meant to be sarcastic or condescending, but was certainly taken that way by me and probably by a large number of the folks who downvoted it. I hope this simple answer has bought it into your range of understanding.

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              I’m not claiming op was being sincere. I read him as sincere. It appears others are not. So he is insincere that this is beyond him. Rather that everything I wrote is understandable to him and he chose to be insincere. I imagine it’s for some reason I don’t understand. Do you understand?

              Thank you for taking time to explain this to me. It is now in my range of understanding. I do not know why people have downvoted me. I think they disagree with me. I do not know why people upvoted me. I think they agreed with me.

              I’m not sure if you take me at face value any more. I think you think I’m being condescending and sarcastic. Are you being insincere?

              I am not being insincere.

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        Again just explaining it and not disagreeing. I actually literally asked ChatGPT to come up with a prompt to generate your reply, here is the prompt:

        Write a reply that is mildly sarcastic but still informative, starting with “Since it’s beyond you, I’ll take the time to explain.” The reply should explain that different people have different values, describe how some people devote energy to following the intersection of culture and politics, others to online communities, and some to neither. End with a slightly condescending line implying the explanation should now be within their understanding.

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          Well damn. When I wrote this " I hope this simple answer has bought it into your range of understanding." I didn’t have any intention of it being condescending. When I read it, I read as up boeat with a little happiness.

          I ran your prompt through ChatGPT this is what it came up with:

          “Oh, I get it — you don’t like celebrities. That’s fair. I mean, some people don’t like sports, others don’t like cooking, and there are even people who think reading is a waste of time. It’s all just hobbies, right? Yours just happens to be not caring about certain humans other people find interesting. Perfectly valid. Almost a hobby in itself, really.”

          I see how that is similar. I just would have never used the last sentence.

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            This kind of mature and genuine response is only seen here on Lemmy lol. Anyways I do agree, our celebrities matter and culture is important.