What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?
(Excluding US politics, due to community rules)
What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?
(Excluding US politics, due to community rules)
Because piracy advocacy here on the Fediverse is about that, yeah. You’re saying the same thing I am, that the Fediverse’s pro-piracy bias is “overridden” by its anti-AI bias.
It’s the same thing. It’s about protesting against big companies that hurt workers and artists.
Yes, exactly what I’m saying. People on the Fediverse hate AI more than they support piracy, because when there’s a situation that involves both enabling piracy and helping AI they will side with the anti-piracy side in order to hurt the AI side. The Fediverse has more of an anti-AI bias than it has a pro-piracy bias.
Hmm I still think we’re saying different things. Enabling piracy for consumers and rejecting it for big business come from the same beliefs. It’s not about piracy itself or hating AI more than liking piracy. It’s not about piracy at all but who is allowed to use it. It’s about content being controlled by the public, and not corporations. I think.
It sounds to me like you’re just saying why your support for piracy is limited in this case. You’re saying “piracy’s okay, but not when those companies use it for those reasons.”
Having rules about who is “allowed” to copy stuff and for what reasons is, in a nutshell, copyright law.
Not sure I understand your argument, nor am I talking about myself personally, but folks I’ve seen on my instance who do. Actually I’m just a privacy and Flying Spaghetti Monster piracy advocate 😅
One who photographs a painting from a Walmart and prints it in their living room, and also boycotts a News outlet who underpays their employees is not more anti-news than pro-theft. They are both boycotts equally against capitalism.
I’m sure there are also many folks who pirate immorally, like from smaller artists, or because they’re broke. But pro-piracy usually means in the boycott sense.
The original comment I’m responding to listed two biases of the Fediverse’s population:
All that I’m saying - and that you are, as far as I can tell, agreeing with - is that in the situation where “piracy ok” and “AI bad” overlap the “AI bad” bias prevails. People who were cheering piracy moments earlier stop and go “no, not like that.”
As far as I can see, you’re saying the same thing. You’re just trying to justify why you’re saying “no, not like that.” Which is not relevant to the basic point I was making.
You’re both arguing anchored on hyper-reductive takes on what people think.
People who think “Piracy OK” rarelly think that “All Piracy is OK” (for example people who think Piracy for personal profit is OK are pretty rare) and similarly those who think “AI is bad” seldom think it’s all bad (I have yet to hear a negative take on AI Character Recognition)
If one takes those two sentences as absolutes with none of that nuance and then extrapolates from such artificially narrowed premises, then of course the result will be ridiculous and contradictory.
I think your argument attempts to highlight a hypocrisy where mine highlights consistency but I may be misunderstanding.
If you go back to my original comment you’ll see that I said:
That’s the “Piracy OK” side, so yes, there is hypocrisy there. I’m reminded of the classic “what kind of woman do you think I am?” story.