Over the past several months, I’ve been going down the privacy rabbit hole and started ditching centralized, non-E2EE services like Discord. I’ve been avoiding mainstream services and managed to coax a couple of my existing Discord friends (though not most of them) to use more private services like Matrix.
There’s only one problem: Nobody uses them. There is virtually no way to meet like-minded people who live near me because there just aren’t enough people or communities on there. Even on Lemmy (which I know isn’t totally private, but still beats Reddit) doesn’t have the volume needed to come across a lot of people who live near me. I want to meet people. I want to have friends in real life.
I don’t live in an urban planner’s utopia. I live in a car-dependent suburb on the outskirts of a city. You can’t just walk outside and meet a bunch of people, not with all of the “get off my lawn” types everywhere. You have to go somewhere else to meet people. There are cameras everywhere, so you will probably be seen in most normal meetup spots. Not to mention all of the phones.
I hate to say it, but I don’t see how it’s feasible to meet up with normal people without some corporation or the government finding out where you’re going and who you’re associated with, at least not in the U.S. where I live.
If we insist on living as hermits who only use obscure Internet services, aren’t we ceding influence to the exact forces that are ruining society in the first place? Aren’t we at our weakest when we’re isolated and alone, yelling into an echo chamber of scattered individuals instead of forming strong local communities in the real world and educating people who aren’t fully in the know?
I’m not saying that these services don’t have value; I’m just starting to doubt that you can make new irl friends and be totally private at the same time. Showing up to a meetup or event with a bunch of face-covering gear and telling people to follow you to a remote place where there aren’t any cameras is probably going to raise some major red flags.
But maybe I’m taking it too literally. Maybe private services are more for discussing sensitive stuff with people you already know. That’s why I wanted to ask Lemmy. What do you think? How do you approach this tradeoff between privacy and staying connected with everyday people?
At some point, you’ll have to decide what you’re doing all this for, and if it’s worth all the trouble.
Going by that logic, it would be safer to not go to these meetups, or any meetup at all. After all, every contact you have is a form of exposure.
If we’re to take this to the extreme, you could live in the woods, with no human contact at all.
However, is this really what you want? You do have a lifestyle to sustain. Odds are, you’ve lived in the society your whole life. You’d need a decent paying job, as even having this very post would cost you something more than just your time.
The next question: what’s at stake for you here? Would having your face caught at the security camera jeopardize you? Are you a world class criminal, or a retired one with your employer seeking your head to put on a pole? Are you running away from an abusive spouse? Are you running for office against certain tyrant? If you answer yes to any of these questions, then yes, you’d have to inspect every interaction you have and weight the risk against the potential gain.
Otherwise, odds are you’re doing this out of curiosity and, to some extent, pleasure. To which I would ask: would limitting your social interaction ‘please’ you?