Over the past several months, I’ve been going down the privacy rabbit hole and started ditching centralized, non-E2EE services like Discord. I’ve been avoiding mainstream services and managed to coax a couple of my existing Discord friends (though not most of them) to use more private services like Matrix.
There’s only one problem: Nobody uses them. There is virtually no way to meet like-minded people who live near me because there just aren’t enough people or communities on there. Even on Lemmy (which I know isn’t totally private, but still beats Reddit) doesn’t have the volume needed to come across a lot of people who live near me. I want to meet people. I want to have friends in real life.
I don’t live in an urban planner’s utopia. I live in a car-dependent suburb on the outskirts of a city. You can’t just walk outside and meet a bunch of people, not with all of the “get off my lawn” types everywhere. You have to go somewhere else to meet people. There are cameras everywhere, so you will probably be seen in most normal meetup spots. Not to mention all of the phones.
I hate to say it, but I don’t see how it’s feasible to meet up with normal people without some corporation or the government finding out where you’re going and who you’re associated with, at least not in the U.S. where I live.
If we insist on living as hermits who only use obscure Internet services, aren’t we ceding influence to the exact forces that are ruining society in the first place? Aren’t we at our weakest when we’re isolated and alone, yelling into an echo chamber of scattered individuals instead of forming strong local communities in the real world and educating people who aren’t fully in the know?
I’m not saying that these services don’t have value; I’m just starting to doubt that you can make new irl friends and be totally private at the same time. Showing up to a meetup or event with a bunch of face-covering gear and telling people to follow you to a remote place where there aren’t any cameras is probably going to raise some major red flags.
But maybe I’m taking it too literally. Maybe private services are more for discussing sensitive stuff with people you already know. That’s why I wanted to ask Lemmy. What do you think? How do you approach this tradeoff between privacy and staying connected with everyday people?
What’s the old saying, “Edison worked by gaslight while perfecting the lightbulb”?
I think that applies here. To a certain degree we still often have to participate in imperfect systems while we advocate for better ones. The people working on renewables or electric vehicles still used electricity from coal plants and gas guzzling vehicles. Many of us can see how extractive capitalism is hurting us and our communities, yet we’re forced to participate in it to eat.
I’d select one or maybe two services you can tolerate that are the tools best suited for building your tribe. Insulate them the best you can, be conscious of your own usage of those platforms, and talk… A LOT… about why privacy matters and what these platforms are doing.
A lot of people simply don’t know or don’t know there’s a community trying desperately to build alternatives. Perhaps a community also still flawed, but **progress is greater than perfection! **
As far as cameras go, understand your routes best you can. Be a blip instead of a constant feed. Same with online presence. OK. They know John Doe number 1.5 million and twenty-two exists- but you have some control over whether they know which direction you wipe your bunghole. Take the small victories!
Use and hack the systems that exist today to build better ones for tomorrow.
And whatever you do be careful you don’t become like my great uncle— he thought the Soviet’s had microphones under his plates and spies were hiding in his closet (he was a farmer from podunk nowhere.) but he also fed his tractor hay so— that might have just been schizophrenia…
But, seek balance today so you don’t go mad tomorrow! And if you start feeding your tractor hay, seek help.