I am asking because I know people from both sides:

  • People who discourage it: usually talk about how the beggars might spend their money on, how they might be lying, How donating to them will encourage them to keep begging and how they should be looking for a job instead (My commentary: finding a job is impossible for them this days, matter of fact there is literally hundreds, if not thousands of articles online talking about how hard and impossible it had become).
  • People who encourage it: to be honest here, they usually talk only about religious reasons.

(Note: I know that the overview about both sides are highly unbalanced, but I preferred to keep it limited to my personal experiences rather than expanding it from myself, as I intentionally not looking for theories and objective logic, rather I am looking at people reasons and opinions as this is highly subjective matter.)

Anyone got any thoughts about this?

  • Troy@lemmy.ca
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    15 hours ago

    The pendulum has swung too far. Come back to the centre.

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      14 hours ago

      We’re fighting fascism buddy…

      If someone saying it’s better to use adjectives than nouns is enough for you to want to meet in the middle with fascists, it sounds to me you were looking for an excuse to tell people to get closer to fascism

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        14 hours ago

        Playing games with language doesn’t solve poverty. It just makes you feel holier-than-thou.

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          So…

          Not only do you view dehumanizing language as “no big deal” you’re actively choosing to spend your free time online to argue with people about how we shouldn’t put any effort into it.

          Like…

          Are you just ignorant on how language changes thinking? Or do you understand how serious this is and just deciding to side with the fascists on this (and probably other) topics?

          https://news.umich.edu/word-choice-hidden-meanings-can-influence-our-judgment/

          https://studyfinds.org/language-influences-reality/

          Like. This should be “common sense” but there’s been studies on it for decades.

          Do you really not understand how word choices effect a message?

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            You’re arguing about word choices and message. It’s about as useful as “thoughts and prayers”. Go lobby politicians for UBI, or volunteer for Habitat for Humanity or whatever your local equivalent is. Do something real. Have a nice day.

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              You’re arguing about word choices and message

              Because that effects how people think and treat others…

              This isn’t just my opinion, this has been studied extensively, not just for word choice within one language but how different languages cause people to think differently.

              I thought you just weren’t aware, but I provided a couple sources and you’re getting angry and still wanting to aide with the fascists on the right…

              That kind of only leaves one reason for why you’re still denying science…

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        You’re not fighting fascism you’re fighting a bunch of strangers based on how they refer to individuals in a hypothetical scenario based on your personal, ever changing, in-group language. Identity politics don’t actually help anyone. They just make liberals feel good as they step over people sleeping on the sidewalk.

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          We’re fighting fascism buddy…

          I meant in general that is what’s happening in 2015…

          based on your personal, ever changing, in-group language.

          Again, this isn’t a personal opinion, there have been multiple academic studies showing the effect language choices like this on thinking since the 1980s at least.

          It’s not “ever changing” but if 40 some years is too fast for you, lots of conservatives feel the same.

          I just don’t spend a lot of time interacting with someone who views a personal inconvenience like this apparently is as such a big deal and worth hurting others.

          But again, lots of conservatives do. MAGA 100% agrees with you, and regretably there’s a lot of them these days.

          So I’ll leave you free to talk with the people you agree with.