My take on how a decade (or more) of using cloud services for everything has seemingly deskilled the workforce.

Just recently I found myself interviewing senior security engineers just to realize that in many cases they had absolutely no idea about how the stuff they supposedly worked with, actually worked.

This all made me wonder, is it possible that over-reliance on cloud services for everything has massively deskilled the engineering workforce? And if it is so, who is going to be the European clouds, so necessary for EU’s digital sovereignty?

I did not copy-paste the post in here because of the different writing style, but I get no benefit whatsoever from website visits.

  • ultranaut@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I think its actually that most people generally don’t really understand most things beyond the minimal level necessary to get by. Now that the tech industry isn’t just a bunch of nerds you’re increasingly more likely to encounter people who are temperamentally disinclined to seek understanding of those details.

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      3 hours ago

      That and also - humans not knowing something can man up and learn it. When they need, they’ll learn.

      And OP’s question about European clouds - it depends really. A lot of what this endeavor needs is just advanced use of OpenStack. I’m confident there are plenty of people with such skills in the EU countries.

      As for the post content - I dunno, my experience with Kubernetes consists of using it, but not trying to understand or touch it too closely, because it stinks. Maybe those engineers were like that too.

      • MangoCats@feddit.it
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        45 minutes ago

        I like to understand what I work with, but I also like to keep my tools (like: Docker container images) as close to “stock” as possible, because that way they benefit the most from security testing and patching that others do, and make as little work for me as possible when I install upgrades.

        Having said that, some tech (especially Bluetooth) is best “reinvented locally” IMO, simply because so much effort is being put into breaking Bluetooth security, and nobody really cares to break our products, but if we use Bluetooth we will be slapped with CVEs to patch constantly. So, yeah, use the Bluetooth supporting hardware, but roll your own reasonable security appropriate for your applications and get the hell out of the firehose of whack-a-mole security patches.