Just FYI Curve founder, ceo and part private owner Shachar Bialick currently living in London, was born in Tel Aviv and brought up in the settlement city of Ariel, in the occupied West Bank.
He also served for three years in the IDF which he thanks for giving him “grit and perseverance, which are clear factors for success in business.”[1]
Just use the card your bank gives you.
Not sure why this is at the bottom, the post said use Curve or use cash… cards still work!
But cards are traceable, cash is not (if you use coins, bank notes / bills are numbered and thus traceable)
This is under a post about how to get cards working under Graphene OS.
Curve doesn’t work in the USA, to save my fellow subjects a minute clicking through the play store
Does it work for mainland EU?
I’m not seeing anything on regional restrictions, if anything their website makes it sound like they work globally (or I assume with anything that takes visa cards?)It works in the entire European Economic Area (EEA).
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that
if you’re using Graphene, you’re probably overly privacy sensitive. If you’re […] just use cash instead.
I feel that’s the advice for the people like me, here. But I appreciate all the detail information.
that sounds shit advice. I’m not a graphene user, but no, someone using it does not mean they are “overly privacy sensitive”. the person saying this seems to be overly wanting to tell what everyone shoukd do.
another point is that if you’re using an online service to pay, you are probably doing it because you are paying for an online thing, and in turn you can’t pay with cash.
Well, GrapheneOS is a privacy and security focused mobile OS. So naturally, it’ll have a userbase who is in large, privacy sensitive. It’s specifically made for them.
And yes, it’s shit advice. Kind of makes the entire article meaningless. That’s why I quoted it. But this is about NFC payment. When you hold your phone against the (credit) card terminal at the register. This is a real-world payment solution only. Can’t be used for online-shopping, since you don’t hold your phone next to a card terminal there.
In Poland some banks directly use NFC for contactless payments, thanks to that I can pay with my degoogled phone (Murena Fairphone 5).
Here in Germany too: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/nfc-datenschutzfreundlich-bezahlen-mit-dem-android-phone/
Same with Crédit Agricole (France), works just fine on LineageOS.
Needs Play Services, not interested. I’ll stick with cash for now, it’s less traceable anyway (if you use coins, bank notes are numbered and thus traceable)
Monero.
No other “coins” are actually private. Everything else that claims private is literally a snitch. Zcash, etc. Bitcoin was made purely public with all data logged, tracked and verified on every block.
Monero’s great but I can’t pay my groceries with it ! I meant physical coins.
Haveno can buy coins & not-paper buy mail/in-person. That can buy groceries. Point being, there is little to no anonymity elsewhere.
You won’t be able to on point, but it can buy more than anything else from the exchange for ignorrancy if you’re lucky and it is just that at the time.
There’s precious little detail about what’s going on here, but I assume Curve’s NFC payment system hasn’t enabled Device or Strong verification like Google Wallet.
I’m honestly ok with that “lower security” as long as there are appropriate safeguards to only paying when the phone is unlocked (which it should never be outside of my control). But that itself seems to assume Curve won’t enable those things in the future, which is uncertain.