The government has “strongly condemned” chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for “death” to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of “free, free Palestine” and “death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]” during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were “deeply offensive”, adding it had issued a warning on screen about “very strong and discriminatory language”. The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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    You’d like to claim that being against Israeli murder is antisemitism and thats never been true. Its dishonest, it’s arguing via a category error, and communicating in bad faith.

    Its a cheap facile con that also serves as a slight against the person you are talking to, by using such a stupid argument in a seemingly serious manner.

    You’re not as clever as you think. You’re just weaponizing peoples wish for a just system to your own malignant purposes. We all see you.

    Ben Gurion famously said of the zionist crimes of the Nakba in 1948, “The old will die and the young will forget.” But we will not forget. This will never be normalized, and Israel will remain a pariah people. That is a danger to global jewry and is itself the true antisemtisim thats happening today. Its being perpetrated by zionists like yourself.

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      Sure, man. Repeating antisemitic conspiracy ideology is helping the thing.

      Maybe some people should stop reading “The Protocols of the elders of Zion”.

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        A heavy accusation.

        The Guardian newspaper, New York Times, Oxford research, Mondoweiss all cite the quote without any note of it being controversial, so your calling it a conspiracy theory is itself the conspiracy theory, unless you have some proof? Show us all your proof of your libelous accusation that is of similar standing to those 4 sources?

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/12/israel1

        https://mondoweiss.net/2013/06/the-young-palestinian/

        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/books/review/the-hundred-years-war-on-palestine-rashid-khalidi.html

        https://oxfordre.com/literature/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190201098.001.0001/acrefore-9780190201098-e-1211

        It also is exactly the same sentiment Ben Gurion expressed in so many venues and written letters in very similar wording. Are you denying that this is what – and how Ben Gurion (aka David Gruen before he moved from New York city to Palestine to found Israel) thought? Does your reflex toward revisionist history stretch so far? And you are pivotting from one lie to another aren’t you, because I see you have nothing to say about your previous accusation about “antisemtisim” huh. Well thats fine, I accept your apology as long as you don’t let those lies and slanderous accusations happen again.

        Back up your self serving fantastical claims or dont make them. No one here has time for lies.

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                21 hours ago

                Maybe dont tell people they are engaging in conspiracy theory and strawman about elders of zion, whatever that is, if you are inpacable of understanding any response. And I dont completely beleive you when you say you dont understand.

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                  Man, you are the problem. Try to answer understandable next time.

                  Blubbering about jewish bankers controlling the state is antisemitic conspiracy bullshit 101.

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                    I never said anything about jewish bankers controlling a state. Nobody else did either. So you accuse me of antisemitism, play dumb when you get your arse rhetorically handed to you, you then strawman, close with another antisemitism accusation, and then walk away. Thats not a very convincing performance. Next time maybe dont start throwing around your “antisemitism” libel in the first place.