Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran’s Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been “obliterated,” while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.

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    I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.

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      But look at the data. Forvthe most part it is the red states he is hurting the most. They litterally are the victums. Doesn’t stop me from hating them, but I know the blame doesn’t really belong on them. The people who deserve the blame just want us to blame them.

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        They go on their gut, not on data. And that too is a choice they make as adults which I think we can hold them responsible for.

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          18 hours ago

          You need to try to talk to more of these people. There are some who deserve blame, but not nearly as many as you think. Being an adult doesn’t automatically make a person capable of good decisions.

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            11 hours ago

            I’m not saying it does, but as an adult you are responsible for your choices. None of what you’re saying would ever stand up in court.

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              10 hours ago

              But should you really? Watch the john oliver bit about online gambling. You end up with one person against an army of experts trying to manipulate them into making a bad decision. When do we decide that it’s just not fair for a lot of people, and they really had no chance.