I started getting sad about climate change two years ago after seeing Planet Earth and many documentaries. I completely changed my lifestyle to reduce my part and put significant effort into it.
But seeing rich celebrities who use as much as a common man’s lifetime resources in a week or two, and others who barely put in any effort to combat it, and corporations fucking the entire planet for quarterly profits, barely any efforts towards fighting it even though we had known about its consequences 30-40 years ago, I get this feeling that my efforts are even worth it.
Slowly, I told myself that evolution failed itself by giving a bit more individual selfishness over community/species survival. Just like human beings, Earth’s time has started to end. Its death is inevitable. Everything should come to an end. Only if evolution had given a bit more thought to species survival, we would be in a much better place.
How do you all deal with this?
I completely changed my lifestyle to reduce my part and put significant effort into it.
This is the source of your problem. Individual action will cost you a lot while accomplishing virtually nothing. Donating some small part of your income to green nonprofits has a greater impact, at a much lower cost to your quality of life.
A climate disaster is going to make us all make sacrifices we don’t want to make eventually, no matter what you sacrifice now. If these are the final days of a healthy planet, don’t deprive yourself while the billionaires are taking joyrides in their gigayachts. Just accept that this horror wasn’t your fault, because if everyone lived with your likely very small footprint, this probably wouldn’t be happening.
A story that’s always stuck with me is: “at a party someone told the group that there wasn’t enough pizza for everyone to have 2 slices, and some people took one slice, and some took three - and that really describes humanity.”
Someone said to me once “Relax! Nothing is under control.”
Worry about what you can control —which is very little, especially when facing a world crisis like climate change— and accept what you can’t.
The people who should be fixing this mess are not you or I. It’s the big corporations and the Governments that should regulate them through robust, uncompromising climate policies. Vote for Governments with honest, solid climate agendas.
Other than that, contributions from individuals like you and I are but a drop in the boiling ocean of global warming. By all means, keep doing what you’re doing. It certainly doesn’t hurt to lead a more sustainable lifestyle but don’t feel bad if you don’t do everything you’re supposed to do. Don’t let the real culprits here gaslight you into thinking otherwise.
Again, if you’re worried more about your mental health than the problem itself at this stage, it’s ok to feel that way. Many of us do. But the best advice I can give you is to just accept there’s nothing you can really do about the situation. Whatever happens, happens. Easier said than done, I know, but once you “learn” to accept this fact, your anxiety will drop right down.
You can vote and march. Those are the only small actions that will make a huge impact.
Everything this guy said.
I’ve struggled with anxiety my whole life. But my anxiety is about things that I can control. I don’t worry about climate change, or wars or pandemics or whatever, because it’s pointless worrying about things that you can do literally nothing about.
The reason I struggle with this rationale is that if everyone did this we’d be even more worse off. Kinda like I struggle to get around the apathy-is-the-enemy philosophy.
The problem with your viewpoint is that it’s little more than a thought experiment. Realistically, you will never get all 8 billion people who inhabit this planet to make the necessary lifestyle changes needed to combat climate change.
https://www.wri.org/insights/4-charts-explain-greenhouse-gas-emissions-countries-and-sectors
This one throws has some good figures: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-overview
Sources we could attribute to individuals:
- Transportation (15%): including public transport
- Buildings (6%): this includes energy usage and waste
In total, 21%. Even if we said that’s still a 21% we could do something about, besides switching to a green energy provider and using an EV instead of diesel cars (which is a good move though sourcing the Lithium-Ion batteries these EVs is a big problem in and of itself), what else is there for the average Joe to do? Companies and governments should give individuals the option to lead a sustainable lifestyle. At the moment, the reality is the options simply do not exist or are so expensive that are out of reach for the vast majority of consumers.
On the other hand, we have industrial and public usage…
- Electricity and heat production (non-residential), which was (as of 2019) the leading source of global carbon emissions, accounting for 34% of the total emissions.
- Industry (24%)
- Agriculture, forestry, etc. (22%)
That’s a staggering 80% altogether.
You ever heard of the Pareto principle? It says that 80% of the consequences come from 20% of the causes. In this case, 80% of the emissions come from a minority of people (industry, corporations, etc.).
Oh there are huge problems with my viewpoint - I wouldn’t even say it’s rational lol! I think that’s probably why I have trouble with the great rational arguments like yours (and many others in this thread).
I didn’t know there was a proper name for the 80/20 rule, thanks!
The earth will be fine. It’s us that are fucked
I realized I was anxious about climate change because I was depressed and not the other way around. I cannot change the world radically but I can do my part, convince others to do the same, vote for the right politicians, pressure companies and politicians to act for climate change… In a nutshell I can do a lot and being depressed or anxious doesn’t help
I work in energy r&d, and have for several jobs over the years now.
My sadness is transmuted into passion for solving these issues from the ground up. Top brass is interested in “stock options” and blah blah blah, I’m just focused on solving technical problems to make efficient, powerful energy production that isn’t hard on the earth.
The money won’t matter if there’s nowhere to live. My efforts may not be enough, ultimately, but I’ll die knowing I tried to help solve the problems we’ve caused.
I want to get some trash burning power plants running to help limit methane emissions and be able to scrub the stack - how crazy is my idea in the broad strokes?
People saying do nothing, I’m saying do something!
Get out start a community. If one already exists join it. Find ways to improve your community.
Go vegan.
There are so many things you can do. Don’t accept doing nothing, be a stubborn fuck and do something to alleviate the sadness.
Go vegan.
Any climate activist who isn’t vegan is just a virtue signalling poser.
if it were effective at reducing industrial impacts you might be right.
spotted the valor stealing hypocrite
“There are so many things you can do. Don’t accept doing nothing, be a stubborn fuck and do something to alleviate the sadness.”
Good words to live by. :)
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Have you considered eco-terrorism? \s
I smoke weed and play vidya.
This guy gets it.
Plant hemp. Plant as much of that weed as you can, harvest the roots and store them somewhere that the carbon can’t get back into the air. Underground in a sealed drum or underwater if you have a trash compactor handy, and can dump it into the deep parts of the Pacific.
To be honest I just look at the state of the world and laugh like I’m watching a sad comedy.
And I avoid thinking about how I’m in it and I have basically zero power over it.
I vote for whomever is the least bad candidate and try not to think about it too much the rest of the time.
I try to watch what I read online, and it truly helps.
Do:
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Keep yourself informed by reading bland articles about climate studies with direct interviews from the scientists conducting them.
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Stay knowledgeable about who to vote for to support reasonable climate policies.
Do NOT:
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Read articles that inject opinions from the web journalist, terrifyingly worded headlines designed to get you to click, or anything written for a secondary purpose (e.g. voter mobilization).
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Get your info 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hand from social media personalities on tiktok, youtube, twitter, or any website with an algorithm than rewards the most extreme takes with more engagement.
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Let fear prevent you from living the life you want to live or making long term plans.
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you be the best possible you, thats enough.
I personally do not care that much about the survival of entire species (including ours); I care more about the lives of the individuals. To illustrate this, it saddens me when we cause extinctions, but a little more because of the animals that suffered in the process and a little less about the whole “loss” of a form of life. Yet, it all is sad.
How do I deal with this climate change sadness? I guess I don’t see it separately from other sad things from humanity (and existence, but let’s focus on humanity). I have accepted the fact that most human beings are morally questionable in my book, this causes the world to be worse for everyone in it, and no amount of reasoning with most of them (about the benefit for them and others of being more conscious about their lives) will change it for now.
At some point, some have felt that a better society is just a step ahead of us because it’s relatively easy in material terms, but now I feel it much farther as the social factors are not as easy. I guess I have surrendered to a certain idea of psychological determinism. If we imagine a person has an object we want at their reach, while it’s out of our reach, and we could get it if they only cooperate, we can feel frustrated when they don’t. “Why do they make it so difficult? It’s as simple as reaching for the object and grabbing it for us. Just do it! Why are they waiting for? Ugh!”. But if we start from the idea that there’s a chance they won’t help us because they simply can’t be bothered (different reasons as to why), and that’s probably not fixable, we won’t feel that level of frustration for their inaction and we will strategize differently how to get that object.
By the way, I don’t think selfishness or self-centeredness or whatever is individualism, nor that altruism is communitarianism. I’m inclined to individualism, but that’s what makes me think that just as my life and freedom are valuable, so are others’. I do not like societies that are communitarian because they drown the individual (in false responsibilities, in fear of ostracism, etc.), and I hate that. We have one life and only one and we should be as free as possible, even if that means being unattached, different, whatever. The only rule for that freedom and for everything is ethics. And that’s the difference for me, that’s how I see it. Not individualistic people versus communitarian people, but people that live without an interest in being ethical (whatever that ends up meaning) and people who do.
So… I think I see a lot of these people and I don’t get as frustrated as before. I sigh and continue my day. Reading this last part, it reads a little stoic (learning that I cannot change these parts of society and focusing on the ones we can change). Stoicism is like the ibuprofen of life; paracetamol is pyrrhic skepticism. I’m bad at analogies, lol, but you get the point (I hope).
Prioritizing my health (including my mental health) has helped a lot. Good levels of everything in my body do wonders for my energy, but also my resilience, my mood, etc. Emotional regulation skills, combating stress… I know these are just common recommendations, but I don’t have more.
I’m sorry that you’re feeling down. It’s been a hard time…
By not having kids
This is my solution. I’ve said it before, but think it should be repeated. The global population was half of today’s when I was born. 4 billion instead of the current 8+ billion.
That means if half the population disappeared today, we’d just be back where we were in 1975.
Not having kids is the best thing I can do for both the environment, and myself.
Has the added benifit of leaving me as a passive observer who doesn’t have a biological need to care about the future.