• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Was he arrested? I don’t see follow up. It only says he was handcuffed which would be standard until they know what’s going on.

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      2 months ago

      In the US, the cops need RAS to handcuff you. The standard was never and is not “until they know what’s going on”. And RAS depends on the current cop knowledge. Even if they had legal grounds to break into your place, what they see in the next ten seconds is still relevant. For example, if someone said you attacked them with a knife, when the cops see no victim, knife, or blood, their legal authority ceases.

      Of course it’s all highly dependent on specific details.

      (On traffic stops, often they already have RAS. That’s why they pulled you over. So don’t be fooled by other comments about that topic.)

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      2 months ago

      OK, here it’s the other way around, you don’t normally handcuff somebody unless they are arrested.

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        2 months ago

        You get handcuffed as a precaution. You do not have to be arrested. You can het handcuffed on a traffic stop if the officer decides they have cause to search your car. Etc.

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          Just because handcuffung is normal in the USA, that doesnt make it normal or sensible. No one gets cuffed in a normal traffic stop or house visit in the UK for example.