Hamas has begun cracking down on Gazans who participated in recent protests against the group’s rule, executing six people and publicly beating others, according to Palestinian activists and residents.

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    Frederica Matteoni (writing in German for Berliner Zeitung) probably has checked her sources.

    Gaza: Hamas soll jungen Protestteilnehmer zu Tode gefoltert haben

    Edit, a few days later: The Telegraph quotes a known person who’s describing what they did.

    Hamas tortures protester to death and leaves body on family’s doorstep

    Also, this is not new behaviour from Hamas. Take of look at historical precedents, I’ll give a selection extending back to 2015.

    1. Torturing people has been everyday business for Hamas. Recently, on retreat, Hamas had to abandon some security camera storage media.

    Shackled and whipped with canes: Israel uncovers ‘thousands of hours’ of sickening footage showing Hamas interrogators torturing innocent Palestinians

    1. A few years ago, in 2022, they had an execution spree. France 24 reports:

    Gaza’s Hamas executes five Palestinians, including two for ‘collaboration’ with Israel

    1. Back in 2015 they had a big execution spree. The Guardian reports:

    Hamas executed 23 Palestinians under cover of Gaza conflict, says Amnesty

    Maybe it is time to stop and consider: maybe both Israel and Hamas are committing crimes of the most severe kind. History is not in short supply of one one tyranny fighting another.___

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      Frederica Matteoni (writing in German for Berliner Zeitung) probably has checked her sources.

      Second paragraph in the piece:

      “Oday Nasser Al Rabay’s body was dumped outside his family’s home over the weekend, report Times of Israel and other Israeli media, citing statements from relatives.”

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        Checking one’s sources implies that you read them, see what evidence they offer (e.g. relatives’ posts, photos or videos from burial ceremonies), cross-check if the material is new or has been placed into a different context… and decide if you trust the material. The source can be direct or another publication. A journalist is better equipped to do that, since they can ask from quite many colleagues. They have the benefit of experience.

        Material that gets re-published can usually be considered somewhat credible.

        Material that does not get re-published, typically is not.

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          That’s making a lot of assumptions about someone solely citing Israeli papers and not claiming to have any direct sources in Gaza. What makes you think this particular woman has in any way corroborated them? She’s not saying she has an anonymous source and putting her reputation on the line, she’s openly citing other journalists.

          Is she in some way a particularly reputable journalist who would be inherently careful about Israeli propaganda or having some inherent objectivity? All I see from her regarding Gaza is things boosting the Israeli government’s narrative, including a “one year later” piece criticizing anti-Israeli currents in the left, talking about how she went to that music festival years earlier, and called herself as a Zionist.

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            Yes, it involves assumptions.

            On the background of Hamas having tortured and killed opponents before, and on the background of demonstrations having occured against them in Gaza at the end of Ramadan, as reported here

            Videos verified by The New York Times showed groups of Gazans in the half-ruined streets in the northern town of Beit Lahiya. Some carried more neutral signs that opposed the continuation of the war, while others chanted slogans calling for Hamas to get out.

            …it is not a big assumption that Hamas leaders would ask their security service to find out who organized protests against them, and to kill those persons. They are not shy. It is not news that they kill civilians. It is not a big assumption.

            However, time will clarify things. People will be asking Gaza residents if they know someone who knows someone named Oday Nasser Al Rabay, and soon enough we should have more information. If such a person isn’t found, or turns up alive, it will be news too.

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              P.S. A secondary and named source has now appeared, and claims to have photos:

              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/03/30/hamas-beat-protester-death-oday-al-rabbay-gaza-doorstep/

              Mazen Shat, a senior police officer affiliated with Fatah – the Palestinian nationalist group that lost control of Gaza after a brief war with Hamas in 2007 – told The Telegraph: “Uday was martyred by the criminals of Hamas. And what’s his crime? He told the truth, because he refused to be silent on injustice, because he did not kneel to Hamas.”

              Mr Shat said Hamas had tortured the young man for four hours. Images showed open wounds and bruising that left their victim’s body swollen and bloody.

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      No it can’t be!!! You mean both sides have extremeist elements that do bad things?

      You mean a lot of people are really just innocent victims of the perpetuation of conflict? Two warring nations doing tick for tack violence to each other for no other reason than the last random active violence? Quote some 800 year old history of violence and do some more?

      If both sides are bad can you please explain how I can virtue signal and make this about me?