Why can’t steam just go back to the greenlight system. It was SUCH a better storefront then. Now it’s just a cesspool of bullshit games and bullshit “reviews” I rarely use it anymore.
And “voting” favors developers/celebrities with userbases to flood the system. This was a well documented problem and many of the indie devs of the era complained. The influencers of the era could get anything greenlit. Amazing games like even frigging Mount&Blade were in an endless struggle. And let alone the truly new developers who just had a game and a dream.
Also: I am pretty sure you are just showing your ass, but people who make “furry hentai games” aren’t inherently “pieces of shit”. Valve 900% needs to improve the filters to let people who don’t want to see it ignore it (Will Smith is basically the only person who knows how to hide it, it seems) but those games deserve to exist just as much as the latest call of duty.
Yes it was. Plenty of developers who didn’t already have an established audience to rally votes from complained about how difficult it was to even get noticed. And it invited a lot of shady tactics as other developers gamed the system to bribe or even bot votes, because if you’re not doing that then your game will be left behind as your competition gets Greenlit first. Many perfectly good games got stuck in “Greenlight Hell” for a very long time.
Greenlight era had a lot of problems, and these problems are well documented. Valve dropped it for a reason. Don’t start with the revisionist history.
That doesn’t make sense since the community as a whole would have to support a game before it hit the steam store. So… idk what you’re talking about. Grenlight was like a “hey guys I made this game where you play a stick man and you do a gem puzzle to unlock a flash animation naked furry girl!” No one would allow that to be greenlot, therefore it would never be on steam
After greenlight every fucking pos on the planet has made some kind of $2 scam game making Nintendo’s eShop look normal.
No greenlight = anyone and everyone can put anything on steam and sell it.
What you don’t remember where the armies of bot accounts it brought into Steam. People would pay for votes and get scams and money grabs greenlit while indies couldn’t even get a foot on the door. YouTube channels made series about playing the shovelware and mocking the system. There’s a reason it was done away with.
I also want to k kw which games you’re talking about lol. Besides sports games. Because the last 10 years was like … battlefield 2042, dragon age and maybe Andromeda was in that timeline. Maybe anthem, a fun and unique game ruined by the community.
Or are you just mad that EA games have black people and women in them?
The NFS series (“look how they massacred my boy”), The Sims, Burnout mostly. Battlefield as well, I’ve watched that series implode from the sidelines instead of in my face.
O.o @ your last sentence there. I’m a flaming gay furry, diversity is great.
Why can’t steam just go back to the greenlight system. It was SUCH a better storefront then. Now it’s just a cesspool of bullshit games and bullshit “reviews” I rarely use it anymore.
The greenlight system wasn’t any better, all it did was gatekeep indie developers while still being easy to manipulate.
It didn’t gatekeep, it let people vote. And calling someone who makes a fury hentai game isn’t an “indie developer”. It’s a scammer.
And “voting” favors developers/celebrities with userbases to flood the system. This was a well documented problem and many of the indie devs of the era complained. The influencers of the era could get anything greenlit. Amazing games like even frigging Mount&Blade were in an endless struggle. And let alone the truly new developers who just had a game and a dream.
Also: I am pretty sure you are just showing your ass, but people who make “furry hentai games” aren’t inherently “pieces of shit”. Valve 900% needs to improve the filters to let people who don’t want to see it ignore it (Will Smith is basically the only person who knows how to hide it, it seems) but those games deserve to exist just as much as the latest call of duty.
Can you explain the Will Smith reference? I am unaware of any affiliation he has with Steam / Valve.
There is a steamer named Will Smith as well.
Oh, I see. Thank you for the information.
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Greenlight was far worse of a problem.
I’d rather let all the shovelware onto Steam than gatekeep even one legitimate developer.
That’s not how it worked
Yes it was. Plenty of developers who didn’t already have an established audience to rally votes from complained about how difficult it was to even get noticed. And it invited a lot of shady tactics as other developers gamed the system to bribe or even bot votes, because if you’re not doing that then your game will be left behind as your competition gets Greenlit first. Many perfectly good games got stuck in “Greenlight Hell” for a very long time.
Greenlight era had a lot of problems, and these problems are well documented. Valve dropped it for a reason. Don’t start with the revisionist history.
Greenlight saw one of the biggests floods of shovel ware in Steam’s history. The store hasn’t actually recovered since.
That doesn’t make sense since the community as a whole would have to support a game before it hit the steam store. So… idk what you’re talking about. Grenlight was like a “hey guys I made this game where you play a stick man and you do a gem puzzle to unlock a flash animation naked furry girl!” No one would allow that to be greenlot, therefore it would never be on steam
After greenlight every fucking pos on the planet has made some kind of $2 scam game making Nintendo’s eShop look normal.
No greenlight = anyone and everyone can put anything on steam and sell it.
What you don’t remember where the armies of bot accounts it brought into Steam. People would pay for votes and get scams and money grabs greenlit while indies couldn’t even get a foot on the door. YouTube channels made series about playing the shovelware and mocking the system. There’s a reason it was done away with.
Yeah this still happens except they sell puzzle games now.
You sure you aren’t confusing Steam with the EA App?
(god that name is completely braindead)
EA has EA games… I don’t get the jab?
It’s because EA games have been regurgitated trash since like 2010
2010 is generous. They’ve been shoveling shitware for much longer than that!
I do hold nfs hp 2010 as well as nfs mw 2012 in a good light, so that’s why “like” 2010 :p
What games do you play?
I also want to k kw which games you’re talking about lol. Besides sports games. Because the last 10 years was like … battlefield 2042, dragon age and maybe Andromeda was in that timeline. Maybe anthem, a fun and unique game ruined by the community.
Or are you just mad that EA games have black people and women in them?
The NFS series (“look how they massacred my boy”), The Sims, Burnout mostly. Battlefield as well, I’ve watched that series implode from the sidelines instead of in my face.
O.o @ your last sentence there. I’m a flaming gay furry, diversity is great.
Many great games wouldn’t be released without the current system giving them a chance. Shovelware is a problem, but I think it’s a fairer alternative.
Doubtful