Italy’s parliament on Tuesday approved a law that introduces femicide into the country’s criminal law and punishes it with life in prison.

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    Wouldn’t it be smarter to have a law that simply and generically adds penalties on a crime committed out of hate against a population group?

    So instead of “just” femicide, it could also cover hate against e.g. members of religions, the handicapped, or, in a reverse case, maybe even cover a hate-murder on a man?

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    16 hours ago

    That’s nice.

    Can police start believeing women who tell them they feel they are in danger, and do something about it before someone kills them, now?

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      6 hours ago

      I think this is the bigger problem, actually. It could have prevented a number of femicides.

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        For real.

        The law in a lot of places does not allow police to do anything to help someone, before their life has already been risked.

        Unfortunately the first attempt on someone’s life can be just as lethal as a hypothetical second.

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    Femicide doesn’t get solved with more laws. It’s a deep rooted issue which needs education. Proper support for abused people, really investigating and enforcing laws. Providing mental health support.

    It’s not like the people who are killing women right now are too worried about the existing laws. They do it out of hate and cowardice. Cultural expectations, mental health issues. And just because “they can”.

    But really. Support for women before they are killed. In many cases, the signs show way before and the abusers are let go with just a warning.

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    23 hours ago

    I have briefly scanned the headline and am ready to share my immediate opinion on this significant political issue that I did zero research on. Where do I put it?

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    A murder charge is a minimum sentence of 21 years up to life if it had aggravating circumstances like premeditation.

    So I guess this means you can be convicted of murder and femicide now and serve double life sentences. What does it accomplish practically aside from responding politically to the murder of that Giulia girl?

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      8 hours ago

      You are wrong because you clearly are not informed about the Italian legislation.

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      19 hours ago

      It scores some political points, without having to address the deeper issues. That’s what politicians do best.

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    If you have a problem with criminalizing hate crime murders against women, you are probably part of the problem. We have a worldwide epidemic of violence against women.

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    So instead of tuning the law by adding a few lines about sex-centered homicides, they invented the new term and just stated that some sex is more important than other. It is amazing how politicians manage to invent the most stupid solution to any problem.

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      No need to lose your mind, this is just a new category of hate crime, no sex is more important than the other.

      It is amazing how bigots manage to invent the most stupid excuses to be hateful.

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        no sex is more important than the other.

        So that means they also have laws for androcide. Right?

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          No, because that basically doesn’t exist and usually no one makes laws for things that don’t exist.

          Feel free to keep trying to justify your misogyny, I am mildly entertained.

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            Would it have been difficult to introduce a gendercide law?

            If androcide doesn’t exist, it wouldn’t matter anyway, right?

            So that you know, all the feminists fighting for equality are satisfied with having equal rights and laws for both genders.

            Unless…

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              So you are infuriated by the name? That sounds like misogyny since there are no androcides and the law, whatever the name, would still concern only femicides.

              Anyway a “gendercide” law could be great and could include also hate crimes against homosexuals, transsexuals and so on, but guess what?

              Other bigots like you go completely nuts when someone mentions these words and the current proposed law for that specific type of crimes is blocked.

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                Infuriated? I see someone is projecting.

                Other bigots like you go completely nuts when someone mentions these words

                Like myself? Uhm. Wasn’t I the one who just said they should have introduced a gendercide law?

                I think it’s time for one of us to take a nap.

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                  Thank you for the eloquent answer 😂

                  EDIT: you are the one who is proposing (completely out of nowhere) a “gendercide” law even though you know androcides don’t exist and even though you didn’t mention other genders.

                  Sounds all purely in bad faith, which is why I’m prone to include you in the bigots club.